You see, it points that Christ IS God.
To say anything else, shows your lack of understanding of the scriptures, and your denial of who Christ is...
Crofty, let me say something to you which the Lord Jesus said to the Jews, who also believed they were serving God...
John 5:39
"Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."
Men think they have eternal life, but they ignorantly deny the scriptures and go on their own understanding...
Proverbs 14:12
"There is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death."
YOU preach another Christ... which Paul warned of.
2 Corinthians 11:4
"For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him."
It is best searching the scriptures, and making sure you are asking God for His understanding, rather than the understanding of what men say.. it's good having your own opinion, but make sure it's not an opinion that preaches false teachings which you have done.
Job 32:8
"But there is a spirit in man: and the inspiration of the Almighty giveth them understanding."
Do you read the bible for your understanding, or seek men's wisdom, understanding and their in-sight.? Your are as bad as JWs who are a cult leading people to hell... don't become one of them....
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Is Jesus Christ, Jehovah God? (Not the Father, but Equal to the Father)
by JW Answers injehovah's witnesses,is jesus christ, jehovah god?
(not the father, but equal to the father)what if the watchtower told you about god in a false way, and yet the bible taught you about god in his true character, how would you respond?could it be true, that the watchtower have been leading you up the garden path, describing god in a way that the bible does not describe?
please watch my latest video to help you to see how the bible describes the lord jesus christ, and also within my video, i explain from the new world translation how the bible which the jws use, also describes jesus as jehovah god.
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Is Jesus Christ, Jehovah God? (Not the Father, but Equal to the Father)
by JW Answers injehovah's witnesses,is jesus christ, jehovah god?
(not the father, but equal to the father)what if the watchtower told you about god in a false way, and yet the bible taught you about god in his true character, how would you respond?could it be true, that the watchtower have been leading you up the garden path, describing god in a way that the bible does not describe?
please watch my latest video to help you to see how the bible describes the lord jesus christ, and also within my video, i explain from the new world translation how the bible which the jws use, also describes jesus as jehovah god.
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Cofty, you are not showing verses to counter-act what I am saying, and to say that "The trinity is nowhere described in the bible" shows your lack of understanding and knowledge towards the scriptures.
The Bible explains that Jesus is God (As I have shown you)
The Bible explains that the Holy Spirit is God (As I have explained in a previous video)
The Bible explains that the Father is also God.
If Jesus is NOT God, then how can He be the word of God?
John 1:1
"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God."The Word was God - If Jesus is a lesser God, then there are two God's in the Bible, but the Bible explains that there is ony ONE true God... also, if Jesus is a lesser god, how can He be the Word of God? Surely that would mean that He is the Word of a god, but He is the WORD of GOD.
Satan wants nothing more to demish the person of the Lord Jesus.
Crofty, if you fail to acknowledge that Jesus is God, then you do not have the Holy Spirit...
1 Corinthians 12:3
"Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost."
Do you believe that Jesus Christ is THE LORD? Obviously by your response, the answer is no, thus the Bible explains this...
1 John 4:1
"Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world."
Try the Spirits... how? By the word of God. This shows that you do not have the Holy Spirit, thus you surely cannot be saved, so it is pointless trying to argue the fact here with someone who is not saved if they are making up excuses to deny the deity of the Lord Jesus.
To answer your question above, the Lord Jesus Christ still acknowledges His Father as His God by way of an example for ourselves to follow. When Jesus was on the earth, he acknowledged that the Father was greater than Him (John 10:29) yet in Colossians and Philippians, Paul acknowledges that Jesus is Equal to the Father...
Colossians 2:9
" For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily."
Philippians 2:5-6
"Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with
However when He came to this earth, He made Himself of no reputation and TOOK ON the form of a Servant (Phil 2:7)
The reason He did this was...
Phil 2:8
"And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross."
To Humble Himself for the suffering of death.
Hebrews 2:9
"But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man."
Throughout the Bible, the scriptures speak of CHRIST, and showing you His deity. The verses I quoted in the video give strong evidence towards His deity.
All you have said is quoting your own understanding, your own traditions and teachings...Parrotted what others have said in times past, without having any scriptural back up.
Matthew 15:9
"But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men."
Galatians 2:8
"Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ."
You quoted "The Trinity is NOWHERE described in the bible" Oh really?
1 John 5:7
"For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one."
I bet you will say something idiotic like... "Oh that verse should not be in the bible, it was put in by the Catholics..." Says who? It's God's word... stop listening to man.
1 Corinthians 2:5
"That your faith should not stand in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God."
To deny the trinity is to deny the scriptures friend.
Who Raised Jesus from the Dead?
Acts 13:30
"But God raised him from the dead."
Which members?
The Father (Galatians 1:1)
The Son (John 2:19)
The Holy Spirit (Romans 8:11)
You also state that the Holy Spirit is not God? Yet, once we believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, we are sealed BY the Holy Spirit of God (Eph 1:13)
Here is another thought for you... it was GOD who chastened the Isrealittes and destroyed them in the wilderness right? Because of their tempting and complaining...
Numbers 21:5-6
"And the people spake against God, and against Moses, Wherefore have ye brought us up out of Egypt to die in the wilderness? for there is no bread, neither is there any water; and our soul loatheth this light bread. And the Lord sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died."
Yet, Paul said it was Christ who sent the Fiery Serpents, indicating he knew who Christ really was...
1 Corinthians 10:8-10
"Neither let us commit fornication, as some of them committed, and fell in one day three and twenty thousand. Neither let us tempt Christ, as some of them also tempted, and were destroyed of serpents. Neither murmur ye, as some of them also murmured, and were destroyed of the destroyer." -
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Is Jesus Christ, Jehovah God? (Not the Father, but Equal to the Father)
by JW Answers injehovah's witnesses,is jesus christ, jehovah god?
(not the father, but equal to the father)what if the watchtower told you about god in a false way, and yet the bible taught you about god in his true character, how would you respond?could it be true, that the watchtower have been leading you up the garden path, describing god in a way that the bible does not describe?
please watch my latest video to help you to see how the bible describes the lord jesus christ, and also within my video, i explain from the new world translation how the bible which the jws use, also describes jesus as jehovah god.
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Is Jesus Christ, Jehovah God? (Not the Father, but equal to the Father)
What if the Watchtower told you about God in a false way, and yet the bible taught you about God in His true character, how would you respond?
Could it be true, that the Watchtower have been leading you up the garden path, describing God in a way that the Bible does not describe? Please watch my latest video to help you to see how the Bible describes the Lord Jesus Christ, and also within my video, I explain from the New World Translation how the bible which the JWs use, also describes Jesus as Jehovah God. -
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Is Jesus and Michael the Archangel the same person?
by JW Answers inthe jehovah's witnesses believe that jesus christ and michael the archangel are the same person, and blatently ignore numerous verses and passages within scripture which explain that both jesus and michael are two separate persons.this video study (linked below) goes into the intricacies of hebrews chapters 1+2 explaining how the lord jesus and michael are different persons, and looks at the qualities, authority and power at which the lord jesus holds and how it is separate from angels including michael the archangel..
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Every cult runs to something other than the Bible itself.. whither it is the Hebrew, the Greek, Concordance or they look to men for their answers....
I don't actually go with the teaching of men, I look at what the verses hold. It doesn't matter what position men hold, they can be "intellegent", yet they can still be wrong. There are "intellegent" men in the Watchtower who are ignorant in the scriptures.
What you have said above has not holding ground on what the bible says. - You can only gain wisdom with the scriptures if you know how to rightly divide the scriptures (2 tim 2:15 - "Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.")
You are quoting responses from men, and concordances... and if you believe what men tell you through their OWN understanding and take the concordances reference over the bible, then you will be deceived.
The best concordance to read, is the bible itself.
1 Corinthians 2:5
"Thay your faith should not stand in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God."
Through my two videos, I have shown verse after verse, however these concordances put out men's understandings and ideas.
Only Jesus (who is the word of God, can give you understanding of the Scriptures)
Luke 24:45
"Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures,"
Remember, it is God's word that holds the light, not the thoughts and views of men, concordances, Hebrew or Greek.
Psalm 119:130
"The entrance of thy words giveth light; it giveth understanding unto the simple."
If you want to convince me otherwise, please show me scripture, and not copy and paste what others have said. Paul knew about who Jesus was, and explained that He IS and was GOD. He never linked Jesus and Michael as the same. -
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Is Jesus and Michael the Archangel the same person?
by JW Answers inthe jehovah's witnesses believe that jesus christ and michael the archangel are the same person, and blatently ignore numerous verses and passages within scripture which explain that both jesus and michael are two separate persons.this video study (linked below) goes into the intricacies of hebrews chapters 1+2 explaining how the lord jesus and michael are different persons, and looks at the qualities, authority and power at which the lord jesus holds and how it is separate from angels including michael the archangel..
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Freddo,
1 Thess 4:16 comments as this "He will come with a shout, accompanied with the voice of an Archangel, accompanied with the trump of God"
To say he is an Archangel based on that verse, should also suggest he is a trumpet also, by that logic and theory.
At no point in scripture does it give off the idea that Jesus and Michael are the same. If you'd like to watch my other video on this, please do so.
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Is Jesus and Michael the Archangel the same person?
by JW Answers inthe jehovah's witnesses believe that jesus christ and michael the archangel are the same person, and blatently ignore numerous verses and passages within scripture which explain that both jesus and michael are two separate persons.this video study (linked below) goes into the intricacies of hebrews chapters 1+2 explaining how the lord jesus and michael are different persons, and looks at the qualities, authority and power at which the lord jesus holds and how it is separate from angels including michael the archangel..
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Correct. The Jehovah's Witnesses can dislike all they want, at the end of the day, the Bible proves they are incorrect on this subject alone.
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Is Jesus and Michael the Archangel the same person?
by JW Answers inthe jehovah's witnesses believe that jesus christ and michael the archangel are the same person, and blatently ignore numerous verses and passages within scripture which explain that both jesus and michael are two separate persons.this video study (linked below) goes into the intricacies of hebrews chapters 1+2 explaining how the lord jesus and michael are different persons, and looks at the qualities, authority and power at which the lord jesus holds and how it is separate from angels including michael the archangel..
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The Jehovah's Witnesses believe that Jesus Christ and Michael the Archangel are the same person, and blatently ignore numerous verses and passages within scripture which explain that both Jesus and Michael are two separate persons.
This video study (linked below) goes into the intricacies of Hebrews chapters 1+2 explaining how the Lord Jesus and Michael are different persons, and looks at the qualities, authority and power at which the Lord Jesus holds and how it is separate from angels including Michael the Archangel. -
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Is Jesus the Alpha + Omega?
by JW Answers inis jesus the alpha and omega?
the watchtower make a bold brass article on their own website claiming that jesus is not the alpha and omega, yet however, god's word explains in clear detail that he is the alpha and omega... do we therefore trust what the watchtower says?
or do we trust what god says?.
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Yes, I've learned my lesson about speaking to them regarding "Which Bible is best" or "the trinity" it took me a while when I was studying to get my head around the Trinity.
I showed them a verse a few days ago regarding Salvation, and they literally said to me "I cannot see what you are trying to say from that scripture" then it hit me "They are blind, the god of this World has blinded them".
My family were JWs for over 20 years before they realised they were a cult and they came to Jesus for Salvation.
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Is Jesus the Alpha + Omega?
by JW Answers inis jesus the alpha and omega?
the watchtower make a bold brass article on their own website claiming that jesus is not the alpha and omega, yet however, god's word explains in clear detail that he is the alpha and omega... do we therefore trust what the watchtower says?
or do we trust what god says?.
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Jesus is referred to Mighty God in Isaiah 9, yet the Father (Jehovah) is also referred to as Mighty God in Isaiah 10. As the Father is referred to as Almighty, the Lord Jesus is referred to as Almighty in Revelation 1:8.
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Is Jesus the Alpha + Omega?
by JW Answers inis jesus the alpha and omega?
the watchtower make a bold brass article on their own website claiming that jesus is not the alpha and omega, yet however, god's word explains in clear detail that he is the alpha and omega... do we therefore trust what the watchtower says?
or do we trust what god says?.
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Another classic one is that they believe if a person refuses to become a JW in this life, there will be a opportunity for that person to be resurrected in the next life and Jehovah will give them a second chance at serving Him.
Okay.. so if that is their theory, why become a JW? If you can reject the Watchtowers plan now, and did, but receive another opportunity in the next world.